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Hackers for Charity & the strategic importance of third world equatorial presence for hackers - Andrew Auernheimer
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Hackers for Charity & the strategic importance of third world equatorial presence for hackers
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From: (Anonymous) Date: November 3rd, 2014 01:10 am (UTC) (link)

why strategic?

Why would there be demand for more than one or two space elevators and why would they lead to geopolitical power? It's just a cheap way to get stuff up into space. It's analagous to currently having one of the few rare earth metals mines or one of the few large titanium forges used for making warplane chassis. Profitable but not too big a deal.
weev From: weev Date: November 3rd, 2014 07:28 pm (UTC) (link)

RE: why strategic?

the majority of warfare in the future will not occur on the surface of the earth, but in space. as the majority of battles are in space, the military budgets of all world powers will bid up the cost of space elevator time. there will be several elevators, and there will be no end to the demand for their use, particular because corpseless space warfare between automatons has very little backlash from public opinions. drones right now make corpses and almost nobody cares. people will care even less when space drones are killing space drones.

I just looked at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute's numbers on military spending, and then looked at various self-reporting mechanisms on fuel spending by the corresponding national authorities such as DoD. generally 0.3 to 0.4 percent of all military spending is fuel, let's say 3/4 of that is transit. so in the future about 0.1% of all military spending will involve space elevators. however, elevator transit is actually a rarer commodity than fossil fuels and their various alternatives. market demand will bid these things up to a multiple of that. also, space drone combat will not involve the costly human resources expenditures of previous war campaigns (we actually spend more on perpetual entitlements for former soldiers than we do on actual warfare) so spending will increase on hardware and transit even more.

likely number for total military spending involving space elevators will probably be around 0.7% of all military budgets. maybe as high as 1.2%. even assuming military expenditures still involve entitlements and the ratio of spending on hardware and transit stays the same, a conservative estimate of military spending on space elevator time is around 20 billion dollars a year in today's dollars, even before space commerce and industry enters the picture.

that's a big fucking pile of money.

beyond this, there are specific tactical advantages to entering space at a specific location relative to earth. if country x can only put up space drones from brazil and country Y can do it from brazil *and* africa, country Y wins war for space dominance.

Edited at 2014-11-03 07:31 pm (UTC)
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