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@doctorow got an important point wrong at #28c3 - Andrew Auernheimer
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@doctorow got an important point wrong at #28c3
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From: (Anonymous) Date: January 25th, 2012 11:30 pm (UTC) (link)
the troll is that they should give up their millions of dollars they made hussling an 'IT department experience' in exchange for some kind of moral product, like maybe a tool that will lead to productivity increase in the field of space rocketry, medical surgery, artistic literacy, or internet chattery.

NYPD don't carry puppets on the job to match a puppeteer's starting salary. Apple does't make IT department experiences.

Apple weaseled it's way into the computing market like PERL weaseled it's way into computing science

"I don't know the Jon Orwant guy, but he has written a few other Perl books including 《Mastering Algorithms with Perl》 amazon . Algorithms in Perl? Give me a flying break.
The Perl folks are funny that they giddily bid computer scientists to recognize their language. There's the OOP book and now Algorithm. In Perl groups you'll also read about AI with Perl or such. It'd be fun to see books titled Computer Science with Perl, Logic Programing in Perl, Lambda Calculus with Perl, Advanced Calculus with Perl, Relativity with Perl, Rocket Science with Perl, Spaced Out with Perl, How To Pick Up Chicks with Perl." --xahlee, 2002

Btw there's biology in perl now (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioperl), i can't wait for cosmic morality with perl, apple brand teachings of christ with lacking scriptures, and special class of cops that carry tissues around in their pockets when you get your feelings hurt for driving 60 in a 50 zone
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 28th, 2012 03:45 am (UTC) (link)
Re: moral products
I'm not sure that's a troll so much as the nature of the modern American business. There's always a lot of talk about how businesses should act more socially or morally responsible. To be honest, I think they should. That's not how the system works, though. Businesses only have one purpose, and that is to make money for their owners or stockholders.

That may seem disheartening, but it needn't be. If we know that businesses only care about profit, the the real challenge is to make the morally acceptable profitable as well. Businesses will fall in line very predictably. Obviously easier said than done, but look how Apple moved to disassociate themselves from that factory in China where workers were killing themselves. Look how they tout their eco-friendly unibody construction for their MacBook line. Companies have a very simple and direct psychology. It's just a matter of finding a way to take advantage of it.
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