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@doctorow got an important point wrong at #28c3 - Andrew Auernheimer
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@doctorow got an important point wrong at #28c3
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From: (Anonymous) Date: December 29th, 2011 07:51 am (UTC) (link)
The whole fucking software infrastructure that I grew to devour and try to love is a tower of teetering flimsy shit. It starts as early as the topic itself, with the creation of a field called 'software engineering': "The required techniques of effective reasoning are pretty formal, but as long as programming is done by people that don't master them, the software crisis will remain with us and will be considered an incurable disease. And you know what incurable diseases do: they invite the quacks and charlatans in, who in this case take the form of Software Engineering gurus" —attributed to Edsger Dijkstra, 1930‒2002.

There is no software engineering - there's engineering science and principles of analysis - and a 4 year degree isn't nearly enough to prepare someone for the high level that software has come to require (http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/why_software_suck.html). Software engineering is the wacky inflatable arm flailing tube man posing as an AVLB that the average man depends on to do his work, while skells like 'oakfosho' skates the system, uses the occupy's donation money to get drunk in new york while fragile women around him get arrested and their dads have to bail them out, and runs internet spam ponzi schemes with his brother gavin mills out of his mother's appartment. At least he didn't mention the fat one's name on air like a true chauvinist, ...

I had xahlee in #ed after you left, I've since left too, people there don't seem to give a shit (and xah too). Dude is 45 years old and lives off 300$/month and attributes all his misery to a group he calls tech geekers, He has me transcribe his psychotic suicide ramblings. gencdo was nice anough to donate 10$, though he doesn't have the confidence to have a conversation with her over skype.

Be safe.
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